36.000 bph aka 36k

[Achraf]

Ceasul Rodania a ajuns la mine, in sfarsit!

A beneficiat de un polish si de o curea potrivita ... si iata-l!

[Razvee]

Ce calibru echipează Rodania, Adrian? Eventual și o poză...

[Achraf]

Razvee, am pus o poza cu mecanismul aici http://www.ceasornicar.ro/forum/viewtop ... &start=105.
Este echipat cu ETA 2832. Am mai vazut doar 2 ceasuri Rodania la 36K pina acum (pe net, evident), ambele echipate cu ETA 2832. Presupun ca nu au utilizat alt calibru in linia lor 36K.

[Achraf]

Intre timp ...

... am mai achizitionat un Hamilton:

Hamilton Selfwinding 36000 Ref. # 63.1003-4 (AS 1920; Hamilton 631)

Mai am in colectie doua modele de Hamilton, ambele echipate cu AS 1920; Hamilton 631, insa cu numere diferite de referinta (Ref. # 63.1004-3 si Ref. # 63.1004-4; se pare ca extensia -4 - ultima cifra, este codul carcasei, in cazul acesta Gold Plated, iar extensia -3 reprezinta codul pentru o carcasa All SS; de asemenea se pare ca cifra 3 respectiv 4 din codul 1003/ 1004 reprezinta culoarea cadranului, adica 3 pentru negru si 4 pentru alb).

Ceasul nu este intr-o stare grozava (carcasa), dar va fi util in viitor pentru piese, cel putin!

[Achraf]

Azi am facut un update la baza de date cu ceasuri cu frecventa de 5Hz (36.000 BpH) si am constatat ca exista multe ceasuri de tip StopWatch care functioneaza la 36K (eu am un Slava Rattrapante cal. 5498 si un un Heuer 7701, pe care cred ca deja le-am prezentat!)

Si uite-asa am 'impuscat' un ...

Hanhart Premier Stopwatch DBGM 7016 145, 1-10 sec - 1

[Achraf]

Si daca tot suntem la capitolul achizitii din gama 36K, sa spun ca in goana dupa un ax balans pentru un calibru Zodiac 88 (pe care l-am gasit pina la urma in Germania, la un ceasornicar, balans complet 39 Euro cu shipping inclus) ce-mi era necesar la repararea unui Ernest Borel Double Speed Chronometer ... am achizitionat, avantajos, pentru piese, un Zodiac putin frankenizat. De ce spun asta? Pentru ca la Zodiac, Ref. # trebuie sa inceapa cu cele 2 sau 3 cifre ce desemneaza calibrul. Adica daca mecanismul este cal. 86 este musai ca si Ref. # sa inceapa cu 85 ... ceea ce nu se intampla in cazul ceasului urmator (carcasa este de la un cal. 88):

Zodiac Automatic SST 36000 Ref. # 882-963 (Zodiac 86)








In momentul de fata nu arata prea bine, dar dupa ce va ajunge la mine si va primi un polish la carcasa, poate si o curatire usoara a cadranului ... va arata semnificativ diferit!

[optimistu]

O pasare mai rara: un Grand Seiko cu mecanism 19GS (primul mecanism HiBeat de la Seiko pentru ceasuri de dama, posibil primul din lume).









Din pacate fara cureaua originala. Stie cineva de unde se poate procura?

[Zar]

Curea originala si completa - nu stiu, dar intreaba la dealerii japonezi : Seiya, Higuchi, Ujie, Tanaka etc. Sau eventual poti lua separat catarama originala (tot de la ei) si o curea generica. Mai apare din cand in cand pe Ebay, pret in jur de 100$.

[optimistu]

Multumesc pentru sugestie, probabil va trebui sa comand fie catarama, fie cureaua.

[Claudiu]

Este hi-beat,dar daca nu ma insel nu este la 36.000.Oricum este frumos.

[Zar]

Eu zic ca e la 36K. Pe site-ul oficial GS are precizat ''10 beat''.

''The first Grand Seiko watch for women. It had a 10 beat, high precision movement.
It may have been the first 10 beat women's watch in the world.''

http://www.grand-seiko.com/features/history.html

[catralin]

eu zic ca e la 36.000
http://people.timezone.com/library/extr ... 4986250000
http://www.network54.com/Forum/621198/t ... +movements...

[optimistu]

Eu am gasit in plus:

It is possible that the 19xx family is the ONLY small calibre wristwatch [Women's size] that was ever designed and produced running at 36,000bph prior to the Quartz revolution. According to a specialist website for 36,000 (and higher) "super hi-beat" watches, there were NO women's sized 36K models (obviously the author was not cognizant of the 19xx Seiko family!!). I have not found any other evidence of small sized "super hi-beat" calibres having been produced in the pre-Quartz era or modern day.

Sursa: http://seikoholics.yuku.com/sreply/381/ ... XfiLIIb5rY

Si:

1. About 19 GS
19 GS in 1968 (Cal.1964) and 19 GS-VFA in 1972 (Cal.1984) are right, but Cal.1944 had 1944A and 1944B and it is 1944B of a chronometer which was produced in 1969 not 1967. 1967's caliber was 1944A which was the high beat movement of not a chronometer but the same 10 beats /sec (36000 beats/hour) caliber with 19 GS. The base caliber of these Cal.19 series is Cal.1904 (17j and 23j , 6 beats /sec) produced in 1966, and all movements such as these 5 line caliber of Cal.19 series and also 7 line caliber such as Cal.22, and 25 are the movements for women.
The photograph of 19 Grand Seiko is seen at the place of 19 GS of Grand Seiko history < http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp/gs/about/history.asp > on the SEIKO watch homepage < http://www.seiko-watch.co.jp >.
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Sincerely yours,

Ikuo Tokunaga

Sursa: http://seiko-divers.info/scwf/index.php ... 1044203831

Mai multe poze la http://www.tempusdomains.com/thumbnails.php?album=6266

Din marketing-ul oficial de la Seiko (http://www.grand-seiko.com/manufacture/ ... al_03.html):

Grand Seiko introduced its first high beat models like 61GS (automatic), 45GS (manual winding) and 19GS (ladies') during the 1960's, and they were quickly recognised as being among the very best in the world. Now, 41 years later, new advances in materials, computer-aided design and manufacturing have made possible a completely new 10-beat caliber, 9S85.

[optimistu]

A mai aparut un japonez:





Are nevoie insa de o vizita la ceasornicar, impreuna cu surioara.

[Achraf]

felicitari!
Astept si eu unul ... dar cum nu apare nimic convenabil ... (sau apare altceva intre timp ...)