Omega franken ?

[Costache Ioan]

Va rog cateva pareri (informatii) despre ceasul de mai jos :









multumesc anticipat

[User]

da.
vezi scrisul omega de pe cadran si stema de pe capac.

[Alexvintage]

Felicitari ptr. ceas. Este, in afara secundarului, cat se poate de original.
Este un ceas militar britanic de uz general (general purpose) din anii `40 .
Judecand dupa seria gravata pe carcasa as zice ca a fost fabricat la sfarsitul anilor `40 dar poate detine vreun coleg de forum informatii mai detaliate.

[Costache Ioan]

Multumesc pentru mesaje.
D-lui Clej :
V-am urmarit cu interes interventiile pe care le-ati avut in diverse topicuri si va felicit pentru cunostintele profesioniste pe care le aveti in domeniu. Totusi in cazul de fata , eu am indoieli si in privinta cadranului (nu numai a secundarului) .
Va intreb pe dvs. si pe ceilalti forumisti : unde s-ar putea gasi seriile care ar trebui sa le aiba aceste ceasuri ?

[Lucian TH]

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[montana]

Nu exista o baza de date explicita pentru serialele ceasurilor Watch, Wrist, Waterproof (W.W.W.)!
Cei care au studiat cel mai bine subiectul ceasurilor WWW sunt Thomas Koening si Adrian van der Meijden care au publicat un articol in 3 parti in "Horological Journal" | BHI (2008-2009) dar si in capitolul dedicat din British Military Timepieces | Konrad Knirim, aparuta 2009!
Omega a livrat aprox. 25.000 ceasuri WWW (similar cu Record)!
Serialele mecanismelor Omega din acest tip de ceas sunt cuprinse intre: 9.8xx.xxx si 10.3xx.xx!
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Desi au existat mai multe variante de cadran Omega WWW cu siguranta cadranul ceasului Dvs. nu este original.
Argumente:
1. litera "A" de la OMEGA nu trebuie sa fie ascutita la varf;
2. nu a existat nici o varianta cu modelul de font de la ora 03:00;
3. ora "12" este gresit tiparita (cifrele sunt prea inghesuite);
4. proportia care lipseste din "5" ar trebui sa fie alta.
Deasemenea nu sunt corecte: secundarul si inelul antisoc (cred a inelul a avut un diametru mai mare si a fost eliminata o portiune din acesta).

Marcajele de pe capac din punctul meu de vedere sunt corecte! Consider corect si mecanismul!
In concluzie ceasul prezentat (atat cat ilustreaza fotografiile atasate) este un Omega W.W.W. cu cadranul schimbat (non-original), secundar si inel antisoc incorect.
In rest (carcasa, indicatoare, mecanism) ceasul imi pare corect!
Si eu va felicit pentru achizitie! Un cadran corect este posibil a fi gasit!

[klbrasov]

ptr "user" - vad ca esti f tare la ceasuri rusesti...pe viitor daca habar n-ai de ceva,mai bine taci...capacul acela este cat se poate de original...te-ai gasit tu marele expert in omega sa dai verdict ca e ceas franken

[User]

argumente?
poftim argumente:
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pentru cei care nu au timp/rabdare sa parcurga toate topicurile:

Omega 30T2 35 18 Some metal alloy. Nickel? SS?
Rarity: very common.
(Note I have removed a link that was previously here regarding Omega dials, because it produced popup(s) that I did not like.)
Those interested in acquiring one of these watches should pay careful attention to the dial and try to get one with an original dial.
* Look carefully at the fonts of the numbers (especially the '7'). Make sure there is NO 'hook' to the font of the '7'.
* Make sure the subsiduary seconds dial is a 'step down' (i.e is placed at a lower level to the surface of the other part of the dial).
* Make sure the font of the 'A' in the word OMEGA on the dial has a flat top and NOT a pointed top.
There are many versions of this dial and the original is the most sought after by collectors.
A reader of this page who use to work on repairing Omegas sent me this as part of an email:
"The part number for Omegas was W10/VB 10033 and the individual spare parts followed so that, from memory, a part number for a balance staff W10(the Army Ordnance code for timepieces, including clocks etc) /VB (Ordnance for wristwatches) followed by 10033 (the Omega code) followed by /22 thus W10/VB-10033/22."

deci e franken, cadranul cu siguranta precum si minutarul orarul si secundarul. poate am gresit in ceea ce priveste stema de pe capac.
in ceea ce priveste capacul:

it does look very tidy, maybe too tidy?

To my eyes the back looks fine. The crown also appears to be genuine. Here is a picture of the case back on mine

On the inside the case back looks like the finishing polished out?(I can't remember the word the swirls) It just seems that the stamping is way too crude.

cumparatorul raspunde:

As for the crudeness of the caseback, it's worth remembering that these were made under pressure of time during WW2, so perfection of engraving on the caseback was not high on the customers list of priorities. I'm fairly confident that the swirls should be there, its fairly common place amongst vintage Omegas in general I think.

yes,the swirls should be there but more prevalent. They look like if they have been polished out. Could be the angle of the pic. Here's a poor pic of what I mean the case back is in the bottom corner chronocentric had a good pic, but it's gone.

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I am always leery of WWII military watches... one of the most active areas of fraud in the watch market. I don't know enough to risk collecting them.